South
Cove Special Assessment Special Board Meeting, 8/29/2002
In
Attendance: David Bangs, Susie Carney, Kendra Mills, Mark Southern, Susi
Tom
Absent: Mike Quaranta, Doug McDaniel, Cynthia
Murphy, Shelly Birkwood
At: Mark
Southern's House.
Agenda: Paths
and Drainage projects.
Drainage:
Kendra came
bearing drainage bids.
Olympic Irrigation
came in with a reduced scope bid that came in at $20,603.46. The scope was
reduced by eliminating replacement of
drainage lines that are already functional, and eliminating removal of photinias around the tennis courts.
The Highridge bid
is $27,798 to $29974 and involves only regrading and absolutely no pipe
repair. We easily discarded that bid.
Puget Landscaping
(an Issaquah are contractor) provided a bid
that does not involve substantial regrading, but does
include piping and 6 new catch basins with French drains
over the same area plus part of the north field. That bid is for
$19011.
We took a walk in
the park to look at the drainage system. Several neighbors, such as the
Strombergs, came out with hoses to help determine which catch basins currently
drain properly, and how they drain. The Strombergs' report that the flooding in the park near
their home as been a real problem for them.
It seems as if the
Puget Landscaping concept for the repair best describes what actually needs to
be done to solve the problem. The gentleman from Puget did a lot of tests
and really seemed to understand our existing drain system. This is in
contrast with the salesmen from Olympic and Highridge who did not bother to test
or understand our existing system, and offered up plans which incorrectly
portrayed the current system and involved obviously unnecessary work.
After some
discussion, the group reached a consensus that Puget Landscaping (a local
Issaquah area business) is the best company to continue working with. But
the fact that the amount of the bid is almost as much as other bids
involving what appears to be a lot
more actual work is confusing.
Paths:
Susie Carney
reported that South Cove HOA owns a 10 foot wide tract of land
containing the path toward Sammamish Beach Club. Our path in that area is
only 3 feet wide, and it can really only be widened to 4 feet there without
significant landscaping changes. Widening it to 4 feet can be achieved
with volunteer trimming of bushes. Homeowners have "encroached" on both
sides of the paths including a fence corner on one side, and cement planter
boxes on the other. However, they have paid to maintain this strip for
years, and South Cove has performed no maintenance. Susie thinks the fence
would be a lot less of a problem if the fencepost were simply moved to the
inside of the fence. Mark Southern will look at it to help determine what
needs to be done.
Trees:
There is a general
reluctance to pay to completely repave sections of the path which were already
completely replaced 3 years, and have already been severely damaged by
cottonwood roots. Previous discussion revealed that root barriers are both
expensive and ineffectual.
A walk-through
shows 4 cottonwood clusters.
One by the beach, two by the tennis courts, one by the Tom residence, and one
further west toward the playground. The three in the middle are the ones
that severely damage the paths and picnic
table area. Susi Tom reported
continued frustration with root damage to her property (patios, etc) and limbs dropped on her
property. The middle of the two is just a few feet from the main path and
the spur to the tennis courts, with very significant root structures actually
touching the path. The easternmost of the three has grown up underneath
the picnic table slab (old sandbox) and is actually pushing the entire
structure up in the air at an angle.
A recent bid shows
these three trees can be removed for approximately $2500. Learning from our previous
experience, about $2500 would be needed to clean up damage left by removing them
- such as filling in where the roots were removed. The overall price of
removing these trees should be regarded at approximately $5000. Susie
Carney noted that the replacement of the paths damage by these trees cost $3200
plus tax just three years ago, and they need to be replaced again. So
where is the cost savings in keeping them? [Note: We have
since learned that, since one of the clusters contains two trees, the actual
removal and stump cleanup cost will likely be between $2650 and
$2750]
David Bangs noted
that the trees are beautiful and add character to the park. Fortunately,
the cluster near the beach which most defines the park is far from the path and
not in need of removal. Mark Southern mentioned that maple trees in the
park have grown up quite nicely without any of the drawbacks
of cottonwoods.
Should homeowners
have a chance to discuss a project such as this at the annual meeting?
David Bangs pointed out cottonwood removal had been on the annual meeting agenda
most years over the last decade or more, and it has been understood the board
would be removing them in phases as justification arose. Cottonwood
removal was a major justification of raising the dues to $175 years back, and
was one of the subjects of a neighborhood survey last year. Since the act
of removing them could damage paths, drainage and irrigation systems, it does
make sense to remove them prior to repairing or upgrading those other
systems.
Mark noted that we
can afford to spend $5000 would not require use of any special assessment funds
earmarked for other projects, but would reduce the size of the drainage project
we could undertake this year. However, the special assessment actually
provided just $5,800 to fix the existing drainage system or fund a reserve for a
larger fix in later years.
Susi Tom moved,
and Mark Southern seconded, that we accept the current bid of $2300 plus tax to
remove the trees, understanding that the overall project with cleanup could end
up costing $5000. The motion passed unanimously.
Conclusion:
We will move
forward removing the three cottonwoods near the tennis courts. Mark
Southern and Kendra will work with landscapers to obtain a bid for an achievable
drainage project based on our improved understanding of the problem and the
workings of the existing system. We will convene again in one week (either
Wednesday or Thursday night) at Susi Tom's house to decide what to do with
drainage and paths this year. David will use email to determine the best
night which will allow for best attendance.